Hi everyone!

I came across this article and was interested in hearing your reactions 
at the next meeting.  Take a look - the article can be found at:
http://www.phpmag.net/itr/news/psecom,id,23284,nodeid,113.html

Enjoy!
Rockey

Wow, that is interesting. Perhaps I should be trolling EMEA for Plone jobs ;-)

On Tue, Aug 09, 2005 at 01:51:40PM -0400, Rockey Bandlish wrote:[...]
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Maybe somebody re-crafted the BSD is dying /. troll and some analyst  
took it as the truth.

I seem to remember somebody saying this about Java a while back...

On Aug 10, 2005, at 10:29 AM, Alex Clark wrote:
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Designing pages in HTML is like having sex in a bathtub. If you don't  
know
  anything about sex, it won't do you any good to know a lot about  
bathtubs.

I wonder if anyone has an updated list of popular OSS items that have 
never claimed to be dead or dying - might be a very short list!  :>

Jules wrote:[...][...]
>>>
>>> I came across this article and was interested in hearing your 
reactions
>>> at the next meeting.  Take a look - the article can be found at:
>>> http://www.phpmag.net/itr/news/psecom,id,23284,nodeid,113.html
>>>
>>> Enjoy!
>>> Rockey
>>>
>>>
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Rockey Bandlish wrote:
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+ or - 1%
~r
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"...might be a very short list!..."

just like cockroaches baby, always living, never dieing, underground  
will live forever.
Each harddrive filled with code is like a record crate, and the way you  
use it is your music!

On another note, anyone get a chance to try Desktop-BSD? I had it and  
it didn't do anymore then throw up a splash screen (and then hang) in  
virtual PC. If I can get that up, i'd like to see if it's a stable  
enough release to bank on it for projects. Plone intwined with a BSD  
install CD sounds like a good way to dedicate a computer to that task  
around home(s).

.james.

On Aug 10, 2005, at 12:55 PM, Rockey Bandlish wrote:
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>>> Wow, that is interesting. Perhaps I should be trolling EMEA for  
>>> Plone  jobs ;-)
>>>
>>> On Tue, Aug 09, 2005 at 01:51:40PM -0400, Rockey Bandlish wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi everyone!
>>>>
>>>> I came across this article and was interested in hearing your 
 
>>>> reactions
>>>> at the next meeting.  Take a look - the article can be found
at:
>>>> http://www.phpmag.net/itr/news/psecom,id,23284,nodeid,113.html
>>>>
>>>> Enjoy!
>>>> Rockey
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>
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Wonder which languages that can "penetrate the enterprise space" are
growing, according to their analysis.  VisualBasic? ColdFusion?  Vomit.

There's probably much less weeping and gnashing of teeth if you went 
the Knoppix or Ubuntu route. The hard work is all but done. That said, 
I haven't consulted Google and there may well be a BSD-based CD-based 
project underway.

Cheers,
Jules

On Aug 11, 2005, at 1:30 AM, jamesr wrote:
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--
"There are no physicists in the hottest parts of hell, because the
   existence of a "hottest part" implies a temperature difference, and 
any
   marginally competent physicist would immediately use this to run a 
heat
   engine and make some other part of hell comfortably cool.  This is
   obviously impossible."  -- Richard Davisson

http://desktopbsd.sourceforge.net/
is what I think jamesr is referring to.
I haven't tried it, but did use BSD on a desktop and laptop for quite
some time.
It is lacking in drivers for things like nvidia and <other_brands>, but
it runs xfce and blackbox quite well.
<IMHO>
Ubuntu is nice, my wireless NIC works out of the "box", but they
annoyingly rename everything so if ypu need to compile against it, you
have to figure out what stupid versioned, branded naming convention they
used. (Which really annoys me™ because branding© is an idea we got from
cattle farmers. Like nike actually invented® shoes, more or less
comfortable ones.) Not that *BSD is innocent of naming conventions, but
usually is is done for dependency purposes. A la ports need different
versions of automake, so you get automake259 and automake2.xx. But never
SUPER_pkg_FREEBSD_name_VERSION.

SOmething else that ircs me is going for help on #ubuntu or #linux is
that I usually have to wade through gobs of blather to get to an answer.
It's like wandering the halls of a school trying to find the right
classroom. The BSD channels are less likely to get a million replies,
but they aare usually applicable.
</IMHO>
Enough raving
Let me know how your ©®™DesktopBSD©®™ adventures go.

~r

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