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Mailboxer question / David Diskin <david.diskin@verizon.net>

Mailboxer question
David Diskin <david.diskin(at)verizon.net>
2004-12-03 12:49:23 [ FULL ]
Hi,

I just started to use Mailboxer.  I've set up a list for the office of 
a non-profit I'm helping.   The main purpose is to allow the office 
manager to send out messages to 500 members.  I want to run an 
unmoderated list because the admin person who will send most of the 
messages did not want the extra step of approving an email each time 
she wants to send one to the list (i believe that is how it works, 
correct?)  But, this allows anyone on the list to send a message.  This 
is not so much a problem because the office manager will be the only 
person sending email to the list.  But the real problem is the reply-to 
field is set to the mailing list address and not the sender's email 
address.  So, this is generating a lot of unnecessary email when people 
reply.

What I need is a way to run in unmoderated mode, but prevent anyone 
other than moderators to submit mail.  Is this possible?  But in lieu 
of that, I noticed in the mail_header a dtml method called mail_header 
and it has a reply-to field.  Can I just replace Reply-To:<dtml-var 
"getValueFor('mailto')"> with something like Reply-To: 
"administrator(at)org.net", where  "administrator(at)org.net" is the email 
address of the office manager?  Sorry, i don't know dtml so well.

If that won't work,  I noticed there is a spamlist field. Could I use 
this and put all email addresses of the list there (except moderators)? 
   But i don't know if this will also prevent these addresses from 
receiving mail.

Any help is appreciated.
==============================
David Diskin, david.diskin(at)verizon.net

Re: [ZPUGDC] Mailboxer question / Jules <jules@jules.com>

Re: [ZPUGDC] Mailboxer question
Jules <jules(at)jules.com>
2004-12-05 09:09:55 [ FULL ]
David Diskin muttered about this on Fri, Dec 03, 2004 at 01:59:51PM -0500:
|What I need is a way to run in unmoderated mode, but prevent anyone 
|other than moderators to submit mail.  Is this possible?  But in lieu 
|of that, I noticed in the mail_header a dtml method called mail_header 
|and it has a reply-to field.  Can I just replace Reply-To:<dtml-var 
|"getValueFor('mailto')"> with something like Reply-To: 
|"administrator(at)org.net", where  "administrator(at)org.net" is the email 
|address of the office manager?  

Yes, that should work(ish). What might be better is creating a 'replyto'
string property, putting the human address in there, and tweaking the
DTML (click the Find tab and enter "getValueFor('mailto')" to find where
it makes sense for you).

|Sorry, i don't know dtml so well.

You missed out on the fun of <!-- DTML --> style tags. Now that was hard
on the eyes and brain.

You might also want to look at implementing MailMan. If your think this
client is going to want more than just a simple list you'll find that
you'll be painted into a corner.

Cheers,
Jules
[...]

Re: [ZPUGDC] Mailboxer question / Joel Burton <joel@joelburton.com>

Re: [ZPUGDC] Mailboxer question
Joel Burton <joel(at)joelburton.com>
2004-12-06 10:30:50 [ FULL ]
On Friday 03 December 2004 01:59 pm, David Diskin wrote:
[...]

Yes, you can do this. This will make their responses go to her.

If you need to protect people from sending to the list, and there 
isn't already a feature for that (I don't think there is, other than 
moderated or anti-spam features), you'd have to put it a bit of code.

One reason why  I chose PloneMailBoxer for the ZPUG site, rather than 
the (otherwise excellent) Mailman is that PMB is a very small, very 
Zope-friend, conceptually simple product, and it's therefore, a *lot* 
easier to tweak for your needs, code-wise, than Mailman is. PMB won't 
(& isn't meant to) scale to huge lists, but for small/medium-sized 
lists, it's great and easy.

You could simply modify the mail-receiving function and add a one-line 
check for the admin's email account. That account could be stored as 
a new property on the MailBoxer object itself. A good exercise. ;)

Good luck!

- j.[...]

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