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zope hosts / "Bryan Liles" <bryan@osesm.com>

zope hosts
"Bryan Liles" <bryan(at)osesm.com>
2004-11-21 17:35:31 [ FULL ]
I'm looking for zope web host.   Any suggestions?   This will be mostly
for personal use, so I am trying to keep it as cheap as possible.
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Re: [ZPUGDC] zope hosts / Jules <jules@jules.com>

Re: [ZPUGDC] zope hosts
Jules <jules(at)jules.com>
2004-11-21 19:05:36 [ FULL ]
Hello, Bryan.

I recommend iMeme. But I'm a partner at iMeme so it shouldn't come as
a great shock that I'd do that.

    http://www.iMeme.net/

You're about 2 minutes away from your own virtual FreeBSD box. Mutihomed,
multi CPU, scads of RAM. It's quite a deal.

And there's always Google...

    http://www.google.com/search?q=zope+hosting

...and Zope.org...

    http://www.zope.org/Resources/ZSP/

If you've got a half decent ISP that doesn't block port 80 you could
always hoist it up on your own box and go the dyndns.org route.

Joel, who's your ISP? Don't you do this?

Cheers,
Jules

Bryan Liles muttered about this on Sun, Nov 21, 2004 at 06:48:52PM -0500:
|
|   I'm looking for zope web host.   Any suggestions?   This will be
|   mostly for personal use, so I am trying to keep it as cheap as
|   possible.
[...]

Re: [ZPUGDC] zope hosts / joel@joelburton.com

Re: [ZPUGDC] zope hosts
joel(at)joelburton.com
2004-11-21 20:09:30 [ FULL ]
On Sun, Nov 21, 2004 at 08:15:44PM -0500, Jules wrote:[...]

I have my own physical box from server4you.net. I host about 20 sites on
it and it works great. It costs about $90/month (I did get the best machine
out of their lineup, tho--cheaper are available).

But, here, I install Zope/Plone myself, maintain it myself, etc.

With iMeme, you get a virtual box. Performance isn't as good as w/a "real" box
for many sites/very large sites, but there's much less maintenance for you
to do, many things are done by iMeme, etc. I think it's ~$70/month from iMeme.

(One thing to watch out for is that iMeme charges for overuse of resources,
and you have to watch like a hawk to make sure your log files don't roll
over or your Zope instances take too much memory, or else you can find yourself
paying $40/monht overages without realizing it!) 

On the whole, for a small/personal site, I'd go w/imeme.

- j.

RE: [ZPUGDC] zope hosts / "Boos, Paul M." <PAUL.M.BOOS@saic.com>

RE: [ZPUGDC] zope hosts
"Boos, Paul M." <PAUL.M.BOOS(at)saic.com>
2004-11-21 20:52:45 [ FULL ]
Just another note - a pretty reasonable company that I found is
iniquinet.com  they offer tiered capabilities - base level is PHP; mid-tier
is Zope (Plone is available) and upper-tier is Java.  This is based pretty
much on the amount of resources they consume.  I went that route so if I
found I might want a Java something or other (example Lucene search engine
or hSQL as a database) I knew I had that available.  As you move up in tiers
- all of the lower stuff is available too...  So you could have a mixed
PHP/Plone environment for example.

Cheers!
Paul



-----Original Message-----
From: Bryan Liles
To: zpugdc(at)lists.zpugdc.org
Sent: 11/21/2004 6:48 PM
Subject: [ZPUGDC] zope hosts

I'm looking for zope web host.   Any suggestions?   This will be mostly
for personal use, so I am trying to keep it as cheap as possible.

RE: [ZPUGDC] zope hosts / "Cliff Meyers" <cliff@cliffmeyers.com>

RE: [ZPUGDC] zope hosts
"Cliff Meyers" <cliff(at)cliffmeyers.com>
2004-11-21 21:18:59 [ FULL ]
I use Zettai.net for Zope/Plone hosting and I've been impressed with the
level of service they've provided me.  I'm not sure how competitive their
pricing is with the others mentioned but at least in my book it's a pretty
decent deal.  It's also nice to be able to e-mail support at 2 AM and get
a response a half hour later.  I'm new to Zope/Plone and they've given me
a lot of useful pointers to help me get started.


-Cliff Meyers


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Re: [ZPUGDC] zope hosts / Chris Abraham <cabraham@gmail.com>

Re: [ZPUGDC] zope hosts
Chris Abraham <cabraham(at)gmail.com>
2004-11-22 08:50:37 [ FULL ]
Strangely enough, I can't connect to that URL...


On Sun, 21 Nov 2004 22:02:35 -0500, Boos, Paul M.
<paul.m.boos(at)saic.com> wrote:[...]

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Re: [ZPUGDC] zope hosts / Paul Boos <pmboos@yahoo.com>

Re: [ZPUGDC] zope hosts
Paul Boos <pmboos(at)yahoo.com>
2004-11-23 05:48:58 [ FULL ]
Perhaps I wrote in the name wrong?  I just went to
http://www.iniquinet.com/ and it came
up for me...

Paul

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Re: [ZPUGDC] zope hosts / Robert Merrill <merrillr@mac.com>

Re: [ZPUGDC] zope hosts
Robert Merrill <merrillr(at)mac.com>
2004-11-23 05:58:03 [ FULL ]
And don't forget http://www.objectis.org/  - it can be hard
to beat  
"free" for a personal site.

  - Good luck,
Robert


On Nov 22, 2004, at 10:00 AM, Chris Abraham wrote:
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Re: [ZPUGDC] zope hosts / Mark <mark@zopemag.com>

Re: [ZPUGDC] zope hosts
Mark <mark(at)zopemag.com>
2004-11-23 06:08:41 [ FULL ]
Hi,

You might also want to read:

http://www.zopemag.com/Guides/miniGuide_ZopeHosting.html

which is ZopeMag's quick and dirty  miniGuide to Zope Hosting.

It covers some things to consider and lists at least a few of the 
services discussed here.

Cheers,

Mark

RE: [ZPUGDC] zope hosts / "Bryan Liles" <bryan@osesm.com>

RE: [ZPUGDC] zope hosts
"Bryan Liles" <bryan(at)osesm.com>
2004-11-23 07:22:19 [ FULL ]
I've actually decided to go the route of getting my own server from
server4you.net.   I have a couple of friends who also want to have there own
server and they will share the cost with me.
 
Thanks Joel.   
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Re: [ZPUGDC] zope hosts / Jules <jules@jules.com>

Re: [ZPUGDC] zope hosts
Jules <jules(at)jules.com>
2004-11-23 08:09:35 [ FULL ]
I'd be inclined to back this up on an hourly basis if I were you!
There's no RAID option on any of their configs.

Bryan Liles muttered about this on Tue, Nov 23, 2004 at 08:34:40AM -0500:
|I've actually decided to go the route of getting my own server from
server4you.net.   I have a couple of friends who also want to have there own
server and they will share the cost with me.
| 
|Thanks Joel.   

[...]

Re: [ZPUGDC] zope hosts / joel@joelburton.com

Re: [ZPUGDC] zope hosts
joel(at)joelburton.com
2004-11-23 09:45:51 [ FULL ]
On Tue, Nov 23, 2004 at 09:19:46AM -0500, Jules wrote:[...]

Very true--they do provide an FTP backup, so you can write a script
to copy things over there. But, as always, when it's your box, you
do have to shoulder more of the risk--which is why I'd recommend
places like iMeme for people who aren't skilled at being sysadmins.

Cheers,

- j.[...]

Re: [ZPUGDC] zope hosts / Michael McLay <mclay@python.net>

Re: [ZPUGDC] zope hosts
Michael McLay <mclay(at)python.net>
2004-11-24 11:53:41 [ FULL ]
On Sunday 21 November 2004 18:48, Bryan Liles wrote:[...]

I've been using openhosting.org for a couple months now. For $25.95 per month 
you get a virtual Fedora Core 2 server. The implementation is done as a 
virtual host on a x86 platform. It's like having a dedicated server because 
you get complete root access.

Re: [ZPUGDC] zope hosts / Michael McLay <mclay@python.net>

Re: [ZPUGDC] zope hosts
Michael McLay <mclay(at)python.net>
2004-11-24 17:51:48 [ FULL ]
On Wednesday 24 November 2004 13:03, Michael McLay wrote:[...]

Small correction. That should have been openhosting.com
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