Greetings, ZPUGsters:

Our next meeting is this Thursday, at 7pm, in the usual place 
(http://zpugdc.org/meetings/where/pn)
in downtown DC.

We'll get a presentation from Steve Lambird on EpyDoc and EpyText, a 
documentation system for Python code. If you haven't used these, I'd 
highly recommend you see his presentation--it's a great way to create 
structured documentation for your work (and a great boost for working 
consultants to crank out docs!).

We have a slot for mini-presentations open. If you haven't given a mini 
presentation yet, please consider doing so. This can be anything, like:

* a review of a python product you like

* showing off a program or site you've built

* a quick tip or practice you like about python

* an open question you want to moderate

* a reading of your latest poem about Python ;)


Future Topics
=============

In late September, we'll be getting a presentation from the people 
behind Etria, a Zope/Plone/Python development shop in Baltimore. They're 
active members of the community, and have been writing great stuff 
recently: a weblogging system, organizing tools, and more. Don't miss 
it! (Unless, errr, you're at the Plone Conference, in which case you 
have a good excuse...)

In October, our member Scott Burns will be giving a mini-presentation on 
using SpamBayes with Python, and we're getting a main presentation from 
Rob Page, the CEO of Zope Corporation, on ZC's upcoming plans and 
products. This should be a _great_ talk--and I'd love some help getting 
the word out!

(And, yes, Rob is giving a Zope-specific talk on our "Python" meeting; 
sorry, it was the only way we could schedule this.)

I'm talking now with a school product using Python about giving a 
presentation, and with one of the Twisted developers. If you have ideas 
for talks, please let me know.


Upcoming meetings
=================

     * Thu, Sep 2, 7:00 pm–9:00 pm: Meeting: EpyDoc | ?

     * Mon, Sep 20, 7:00 pm–9:00 pm: Meeting: Etria | ?

     * Thu, Oct 7, 7:00 pm–9:00 pm: Meeting: Zope Corp | SpamBayes

     * Mon, Oct 18, 7:00 pm–9:00 pm: Meeting: ? | ?

     * Thu, Nov 4, 7:00 pm–9:00 pm: Meeting: ? | ?

I'd be happy to volunteer for a mini-presentation for
the Thursday meeting on some of my preliminary
work on using metaclass techniques to apply attribute
constraints and pre/post conditions to Python classes.

I can keep it fairly high-level and leave digging into
the really crazy metaclass-magic details for those who
want to discuss it offline or as a follow-up
presentation.

-Kevin


Joel Burton wrote:
[...]

Kevin Jacobs wrote:[...]

That would be *great*, and I'm sure we'd love a follow-up, more detailed 
piece of metaclasses, too. Probably one of the least-well-understood 
features in Python!

I'll add it to the web site.

- j.

Joel Burton wrote:
[...][...][...]


Great!  Shall I plan for about a 10-15 minute talk with another 5-10 minutes
for questions?  Longer or shorter are both easily accommodated.

-Kevin

Kevin Jacobs wrote:[...][...]
>>> the Thursday meeting on some of my preliminary
>>> work on using metaclass techniques to apply attribute
>>> constraints and pre/post conditions to Python classes.[...][...]

10-15 + 5-10 for q is perfect.